Rishi Sanak says

There is a phrase, a slogan, a promise that is more associated with any other with former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.

This is “stopping boats”.

Nevertheless, in his first comprehensive interview since leaving the Downing Street, former Prime Minister says that he had regret it at any time saying that it was “very Stark..To Binary”.

And he believes that it cannot be actually distributed.

This is one of the “Downing Street Lessons”, which the person presiding over the worst electoral defeat for the Conservative Party says that he has learned, in a conversation for more than two hours for my political thinking podcast.

This not only incorporates the mistakes he thinks that he created, but also with Boris Johnson who has a disagreement about the correct way to manage the economy; He desires radical ideas that he can apply; The lessons he learned from being a Chancellor during the Kovid epidemic – and the first British Asian Prime Minister as the breed and faith and his attitude towards English.

The Sunak is talking about a job in a reflective mood, which he was saying, he said that “probably was not time to enjoy the time or appreciated the time in the context of the time in which I was doing it.”

This reference was not only an economic crisis, but a political.

Toryse were above them Third leader in only 50 daysAnd there was no election of party members or broad public.

“I didn’t have a mandate,” he says, and defends his attitude of trying to bring the warning groups together.

Otherwise, he says, “There will be a huge gambling because it could only collapse. And if it would be good for the country? I don’t think it does not think. I think the country needed stability.”

He has not changed his mind about deporting migrants crossing Rwanda, and says that he now leaves the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), if it has not been improved.

He says that the court has “taken on new powers. The mission is creep … it needs to be improved or we should leave.”

When I asked him if he had removed his eyes from the ball in relation to the level of pure migration, he admitted that although he took “very strong action to bring down the level of legal migration … I should have done them soon”.

Sunak was a casual Prime Minister in many ways. It was October 2022, and he learned that Liz Trus was near Survive in job for a short time than that famous latusAfter the bowling game, Teside having dinner with his two daughters in TEGI.

Four days later, he moved to number 10 as his successor.

He says that he had “very mixed feelings … what happened” but was inspired by Hindu belief in religion, which he says that includes “doing your duty”.

“You just get to focus on your best performance, what you are doing is to do you there, and don’t worry about the rest,” they say.

“This was a very useful concept for me … I kept coming back to it.

Bringing the economy under control after the markets are nervous in front of the unpublished tax cuts of the truss – or what he calls “fantasy economics” – is the achievement on which it is clearly proud.

However, he first goes out for the scale of disagreement that he not only did with truss, but with Boris Johnson, who served as Chancellor.

“He and I had very different views on economic policy. I am a small kingdom conservative. I believe in giving priority, trying to prevent public spending development, be careful with our loan so that we can cut people’s taxes … He was less concerned about those things.”

He tells me that in his regular Sunday night dinner in Downing Street, he argued what could and cannot be done.

He says that his concerns were increasing inflation and interest rates, because “when they go up, it is a big impact on our public finance, as we have to pay more to serve the loan that we have received”.

He says: “We cannot take the risk of spending and borrowing at this rate, and this means that you have to give priority. We cannot do everything.”

Sunak insisted that any scheme to subsidize social care costs of the people was to be paid for high taxes.

Now he thinks that “now we are doing another review … I tell you, the answer is, do we think as a country that it is right to pay more taxes for a more liberal social care policy? Yes or not? I personally think it’s not an answer.”

He said that in killing billions with welfare bills, a more “state radical restructuring” to pay for an increase in defense spending, and he told Johnson that he was hurting the economy with cost of pure zero obligations of Britain.

He now argues to give up legal commitment to give net zero, another Tory leader Theresa was made a law.

During the Kovid epidemic, both Sunak and Johnson faced a certain period of punishment for breaking the lockdown rules.

Sunak tells me that he thinks tall and hard About resigning After that, but it says that he had a job to do and he could also clearly believe that he was fined to be beaten in a work meeting, where a cake was produced for the Prime Minister’s birthday.

Very interesting is the lesson that he attracts from that period.

We all should have been treated more like growing up, he tells me, and the public should have told that “even scientists are not united on it, or they do not know 100% that it’s right to do it”.

The long -term negative consequences of lockdown measures should have been written, because, they say, “We have seen that it has an impact on school children everywhere and it has an impact on their learning. And we probably didn’t talk about that we could have done that time.”

Sunak is proud that he is the first British Asian Prime Minister and talks about this moment as his grandfather – who was born poor in an Indian village – was calling an old friend with tears in his eyes on his first visit to Westminster.

He is also angry with those who have recently announced: “He is a brown Hindu; how English is English.”

“Of course I am English, born here, brought here,” they say.

“On this definition, you cannot play English even for England, let them support them alone … I really thought it was ridiculous.”

Here a man is proud of his roots and is ready to accept the mistakes, but who is wondering if he had emerged at the top before knowing him, and he could see beyond the super-rich Tory which was the fifth Tory leader in just six years.

“This is a single task,” he says, “because it is only 100% on you.”

Many were sure that they called the election early for a new life in California.

Nonsense, they say, he lives here because it is home and is actually just a charitable foundation – Richmond Project – is named after the constituency in Yorkshire, which he is still proud to represent in Parliament.